Christian Wiesner’s new ecommerce opp

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ShopWithMe fails to offer firm possession or govt info on its web site.

ShopWithMe operates from the area (“shopwithme.biz”), privately registered on April 14th, 2021.

On June thirtieth BehindMLM reader Melanie famous a Direct Promoting Journal article. The June twenty eighth article represents ShopWithMe was launched by Christian Wiesner.

Christian Wiesner begins the brand new social commerce revolution with Shopwithme!

The founding father of Shopwithme GmbH, headquartered within the federal capital, is Dr. Keywan Grashoff, mom of Christian Wiesner.

Wiesner’s title seems as a “consultant” on ShopWithMe’s web site.

Contact particulars offered verify ShopWithMe is included in Germany. The company deal with offered nevertheless belongs to Regus, a digital workplace service provider.

Christian Wiesner is understood to BehindMLM as founder and CEO of WellStar.

In 2015 BehindMLM lined a spat between Wiesner and Kari Wahlroos.

Wahlroos joined WellStar in 2014 and shortly rose to the rank of Crown Ambassador. Wahlroos was incessantly cited as one among WellStar’s “high leaders”.

Then in late 2015, Wahlroos bailed from WellStar to entrance the infamous OneCoin Ponzi scheme.

This didn’t sit properly with Wiesner.

Wiesner accused Wahlroos of participating in “legal habits”. Wahlroos circled and, in a public letter, offered perception into WellStar’s enterprise operations.

The true challenge right here is that, as Wellstars No1 and essentially the most profitable chief, I’ve determined that this firm won’t ever ship on the guarantees you make.

I’ve had numerous discussions with you to repair the infinite issues and also you by no means ship. All now we have been informed by you, for over 18 months, is ‘recruit extra’ and ‘promote extra tickets’.

The administration of Wellstar stays a shame.

Merchandise flaws. A product returns system that doesn’t work. Non-existent of buyer help, horrible companion help.

What number of instances did my workforce have to indicate the issues with you attempting to say that we had been at fault?

I beloved the product idea and I such as you personally but professionally as a CEO you don’t ship so the corporate is a large number.

We each know that so many leaders have stop as a result of they don’t earn any cash so it’s a must to launch a brand new nation each 3 months.

BehindMLM reviewed WellStar in January 2016. What we discovered appeared to substantiate Wahlroos’ account.

Whether or not it’s language-barrier points, the truth that WellStar was based twelve years in the past – regardless of the motive – WellStar as an MLM alternative is in determined want of an overhaul.

Issues come up with an absence of disclosure on the WellStar web site, spanning retail costs, affiliate membership prices and fundamental compensation plan info.

As to the compensation plan itself, there’s a whole lot of info introduced however not a lot of it makes any sense.

We recognized autoship recruitment on the core of WellStar’s enterprise mannequin, which might certainly make it a pyramid scheme.

As reported by BehindMLM readers, WellStar would go on to break down in mid to late 2020. The corporate’s web site disappeared in early 2021.

As of mid 2021 Wiesner was amid a WellStar shell firm mess. This might finally end result within the insolvency of WellStar GmbH & Co. KG, ordered by a German courtroom on February fifteenth, 2022.

ShopWithMe surfaced a number of months later.

I believe Wiesner’s WellStar shell firm shenanigans are why his mom is being credited as ShopWithMe’s founder.

Learn on for a full evaluate of ShopWithMe’s MLM alternative.

ShopWithMe’s Merchandise

ShopWithMe has no retailable services or products itself.

ShopWithMe offers entry to an ecommerce platform, populated with merchandise from third-parties.

In an official ShopWithMe advertising and marketing video, Wiesner claims merchandise provided span magnificence, health and wellness.

ShopWithMe’s Compensation Plan

ShopWithMe’s compensation plan pays on product orders by retail prospects and recruited associates.

Like all ecommerce platform, ShopWithMe earns a fee from retailers whose merchandise function on its platform.

A share of that fee funds ShopWithMe’s compensation plan.

To maintain issues easy, except explicitly in any other case said, “prospects” hereafter refers to each retail prospects and recruited associates.

ShopWithMe Affiliate Ranks

There are seven ranks inside ShopWithMe’s compensation plan.

Together with their respective qualification standards, they’re as follows:

  1. Affiliate – enroll as a ShopWithMe affiliate
  2. Nationwide Success Coach (NSC) – generate 400 PV and purchase 5 tickets
  3. Worldwide Success Coach (ISC) – recruit thirty NSCs
  4. Gold Govt Chief (GEL) – recruit fifty NSCs
  5. Gold Govt Director (GED) – recruit 100 NSCs or three ISCs
  6. Gold Govt President (GEP) – recruit 100 and fifty NSCs or 5 ISCs
  7. Chairman Govt (CE) – recruit 100 and fifty NSCs or 5 ISCs

The next is a advertising and marketing slide from an official presentation by Christian Wiesner:

Most of it doesn’t make sense however I used to be in a position to comply with the 400 PV NSC  xx ISC rank qualification standards. I don’t know what all the opposite stuff is and Wiesner doesn’t clarify.

“Tickets” refers to ShopWithMe advertising and marketing occasions, hosted by Wiesner.

ShopWithMe advertising and marketing occasion tickets are €9.95 EUR and €4.95 within the Baltic nations.

Wiesner states the worth distinction for the Baltic nations is as a result of “individuals have little or no revenue there”.

Private Buyer Commissions

ShopWithMe associates earn a fee on purchases by personally referred prospects.

You may earn on any buyer shopping for merchandise on the shopwithme platform as much as 21%.

Your Fee is relying on the rebate standing degree the Buyer is shopping for at Shopwithme.

“Rebate standing” standards will not be offered.

Residual Buyer Commissions

ShopWithMe pays residual buyer buy commissions through a unilevel compensation construction.

A unilevel compensation construction locations an affiliate on the high of a unilevel workforce, with each personally recruited affiliate positioned instantly underneath them (degree 1):

If any degree 1 associates recruit new associates, they’re positioned on degree 2 of the unique affiliate’s unilevel workforce.

If any degree 2 associates recruit new associates, they’re positioned on degree 3 and so forth and so forth down a theoretical infinite variety of ranges.

ShopWithMe caps payable unilevel workforce ranges at ten.

You may earn one other 42% on PV (Provision Quantity) of all Buyer orders of as much as 10 ranges of SBOs of your workforce.

Particular fee charges throughout the ten unilevel workforce ranges are usually not offered.

Momentum Bonus

The Momentum Bonus is out there to new ShopWithMe associates, throughout their first twelve weeks with the corporate.

The Momentum Bonus is made up of commissionable gross sales quantity.

PV stands for “Private Quantity” and is gross sales quantity generated by an affiliate.

GV stands for “Group Quantity”. GV is PV generated by an affiliate and their downline.

The Momentum Bonus is paid out utilizing the identical unilevel workforce as “Residual Buyer Commissions” (see above).

There are 4 tiers to the Momentum Bonus, based mostly on PV and GV technology:

  1. Bonus Begin (generate 160 PV) – obtain a 20% Momentum Bonus on degree 1 and 5% on ranges 2 and three
  2. Advance Begin (generate 320 PV and 1200 GV) – obtain a 25% Momentum Bonus on degree 1, 5% on degree 2, 10% on degree 3 and 5% on degree 4
  3. Energy Begin (generate 400 PV and 2800 GV) – obtain a 35% Momentum Bonus on degree 1, 5% on degree 2, 10% on ranges 3 and 4, 5% on degree 5 and a couple of% on ranges 6 and seven
  4. Turbo Begin (generate 480 PV and 4000 GV) – obtain a 40% Momentum Bonus on degree 1, 5% on degree 2, 10% on ranges 3 and 4 and 5% on ranges 5 to eight

The Momentum Bonus is paid out weekly. ShopWithMe nevertheless don’t specify the whether or not PV/GV necessities are recurring over a set time interval or collected.

If I needed to guess I’d assume Momentum Bonus PV/GV necessities are weekly or month-to-month recurring ove the twelve-week qualification interval.

Bonus Swimming pools

ShopWithMe rewards NSC and better ranked associates with a share in six rank-specific bonus swimming pools:

  • qualify at NSC and obtain a share in a 1% Bonus Pool (2% if NSC certified for inside 12 weeks of signing up)
  • qualify at ISC and obtain a share in a 3% Bonus Pool (6% if ISC certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at NSC)
  • qualify at GEL and obtain a share in a 4% Bonus Pool (8% if GEL certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at ISC)
  • qualify at GED and obtain a share in a 5% Bonus Pool (10% if GED certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at GEL)
  • qualify at GEP and obtain a share in a 6% Bonus Pool (12% if GEP certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at GED)
  • qualify at CE and obtain a share in a 7% Bonus Pool (14% if CE certified for inside 12 weeks of qualifying at GEP)

Bonus Swimming pools are funded as a share of ShopWithMe’s company-wide commissionable gross sales quantity.

Notice that ShopWithMe doesn’t present rank qualification standards.

Becoming a member of ShopWithMe

ShopWithMe affiliate membership prices are not disclosed.

ShopWithMe Conclusion

Though it’s introduced as an ecommerce enterprise…

Shopwithme is the 100% Turnkey Social Commerce Enterprise, serving to anyone to take part within the Social Commerce Megatrend with none Enterprise expertise & conventional enterprise threat!

Shopwithme is growing & introducing revolutionary new instruments and applied sciences to make social commerce referrals quick, enjoyable, and straightforward.

Members can save 1000nds of Euros a 12 months for minutes of easy & enjoyable On-line Sharing Actions!

Shopwithme Store Homeowners can earn on 1000’s of Wellness, Magnificence & Private Care Health Merchandise & many Extra with out ever investing Cash right into a Warehouse, Customer support, or sophisticated product approvals and imports.

Just by Inviting New Members to your Store, who can save as much as to 90% on their favourite Merchandise for inviting their buddies = extra New Members to your store!!!

Since most of our prospects will purchase the Merchandise on month-to-month Reorder, you possibly can construct a really substantial passive Revenue very half time, with zero price for warehouse & Workers!

…ShopWithMe is a continuation of Christian Wiesner’s failed WellStar “promote tickets!” mannequin.

To cite once more what Kari Wahlroos introduced this up in 2015:

I’ve had numerous discussions with you to repair the infinite issues and also you by no means ship. All now we have been informed by you, for over 18 months, is ‘recruit extra’ and ‘promote extra tickets’.

I didn’t know what that meant on the time however having sat although one among Wiesner’s ShopWithMe displays, shopping for and promoting tickets is principally all he talked about.

Shopping for 5 tickets apparently qualifies you as a Nationwide Success Coach.

Shopping for ten tickets qualifies you for “Stage 2”, a meet and greet at an area ShopWithMe occasion.

Shopping for 100 tickets between you and your downline qualifies you for “Stage 3”, a dinner with Wiesner.

How Wiesner describes the Stage 3 dinner is… odd.

Stage 3 is a CEO dinner, proper after the occasion. Going to dinner with Ghazala and Christian.

Precisely, you heard it. That is one thing regular individuals solely dream about.

It is a very, very unique dinner desk. You usually should be Triple Champion to dream about sitting there.

And proper after the occasion when everyone must go dwelling, you’ll inform them, “Oh I might like to go dwelling with you however the CEO requested me for personal dinners [sic]. So sorry I can’t include you.”

Meet and greet is a glass of champagne. Fifteen minutes, chitty-chatty, photograph photograph and that’s it. Thanks very a lot and goodbye.

Non-public dinner proper now could be actually costly. Actually costly.

Should you don’t have 100 tickets, don’t name your self a frontrunner.

You’ve received to advertise 100 tickets in your workforce, and also you’ll be invited to a CEO dinner.

Riiiiiiiigh………..t.

Wiesner characterizes ShopWithMe advertising and marketing occasions as “excursions”.

I went again and checked out what sense I used to be in a position to make of WellStar’s compensation plan in BehindMLM’s authentic evaluate.

Rank names and payout constructions have modified however a lot of the issues famous again in 2016 are nonetheless current.

Whether or not it’s language-barrier points, the truth that WellStar was based twelve years in the past – regardless of the motive – WellStar as an MLM alternative is in determined want of an overhaul.

Issues come up with an absence of disclosure on the WellStar web site, spanning retail costs, affiliate membership prices and fundamental compensation plan info.

As to the compensation plan itself, there’s a whole lot of info introduced however not a lot of it makes any sense.

Change WellStar with ShopWithMe, and 6 years on all of that holds true.

It’s a reasonably poor reflection of Wiesner’s govt type, however comprehensible if he’s solely centered on promoting tickets to occasions the place he’s the focus.

It’s value noting that at no level throughout the 47 minute “leaders” ShopWithMe advertising and marketing presentation I sat by way of, did Wiesner point out retail gross sales of any variety.

ShopWithMe is all about recruitment and promoting tickets. The precise issues Kari Wahlroos complained about in 2015.

Heck, I couldn’t even confirm ShopWithMe’s ecommerce platform even exists.

Wiesner claims that ShopWithMe associates will have the ability to construct “full time revenue with just one hour a day effort”. That’s clearly not achievable, and within the US can be a main instance of an FTC violation.

For now ShopWithMe is being pitched to nations Wiesner can get to on his “excursions”, specifically Europe.

SimilarWeb at the moment pegs the vast majority of visitors to ShopWithMe’s web site as originating from Germany (32%, down 84% month on month Could to June).

Algeria (19%), the US (14%), the UK (11%) and Pakistan (9%) are different nations ShopWithMe is being promoted in.

No matter the place it’s being pitched although, ShopWithMe is shaping as much as be spherical two of the pyramid scheme Wiesner began with WellStar.

WellStar ended with widespread monetary losses and shell corporations collapsing on one another. Anticipate no completely different when ShopWithMe inevitably implodes.



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